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User context, don't install to %OneDriveCommercial% if OneDrive for Business Known Folder Move (KFM) is enabled #627
This is not ideal, as you'll end up with hundreds or thousands of small files that will be synced up and down to OneDrive, which might cause OneDrive sync issues, and other performance hits.
I currently install all modules to AllUsers scope for this reason. Currently 2.7 GB, 12 617 files, 2 315 folders.
Screenshot
If I did not care about this myself, I'd be using more than 1 / 10 of the capacity / max number of files recommendation for the OneDrive client, just for PowerShell modules.
In my opinion, there is no reason to install PowerShell modules from PowerShell Gallery to OneDrive by default when KFM is active. A publicly available PowerShell module is nothing unique that needs to be backed up/ synced.
Option 1 - Cmdlet to set PSResourceLocation for Process/User/Machine
Add cmdlet to set PSResourceLocation for scope Process/User/Machine. For instance:
Add path to [System.Environment]::GetEnvironmentVariable('PSModulePath','<scope>').
Have a Boolean parameter that specifiec whether to move modules and scripts installed by PackageManagement, PowerShellGet and Microsoft.PowerShell.PSResourceGet from old path given scope to new path.
Ask user if parameter wasn't specified.
Option 2 - Use first path in $env:PSModulePath if set
If I've set [System.Environment]::GetEnvironmentVariable('PSModulePath','User').Split(';')[0] to be somewhere else than the default location for <scope>, use it.
Option 3 - Don't follow KFM redirect
Users must opt in to install PowerShell modules to OneDrive, instead of current default behavior.
Windows PowerShell: %USERPROFILE%\Documents\WindowsPowerShell\Modules
changed the title [-]User context, don't install to %OneDriveCommercial% if OneDrive for Business Known Folder Move (KFM) is enabled[/-][+]User context, don't install to ```%OneDriveCommercial%``` if OneDrive for Business Known Folder Move (KFM) is enabled[/+]on Apr 7, 2022
Thanks Olav Rønnestad Birkeland (@o-l-a-v) for opening this issue, we are investigating this-- to confirm have you hit this issue with our v3 previews?
Tested with beta 3.0.12, it installs to %OneDriveCommercial%\Documents from both Windows PowerShell and PowerShell 7.2.2.
\WindowsPowerShell with Windows PowerShell, \PowerShell with v7.2.2.
One more thing I noticed: Running the install command under first from Windows PowerShell, then with PowerShell v7.2.2, PowerShellGet says it's alrady installed. But it is really, when it get's installed to a different directory with PowerShell Core vs. Windows PowerShell? IMO, there needs to be some more thinking about both where to install, and detection logic.
# Import module downloaded from PowerShellGallery, extracted with 7-ZipImport-Module-Name ('{0}\powershellget.3.0.12-beta\PowerShellGet.psd1'-f [System.Environment]::GetFolderPath('Desktop'))
# Check imported modulesGet-Module# Install a module in user contextPowerShellGet\Install-PSResource-Name 'Az.Cdn'-Scope 'CurrentUser'-Repository 'PSGallery'-Quiet -Confirm:$false-TrustRepository -Reinstall
changed the title [-]User context, don't install to ```%OneDriveCommercial%``` if OneDrive for Business Known Folder Move (KFM) is enabled[/-][+]User context, don't install to `%OneDriveCommercial%` if OneDrive for Business Known Folder Move (KFM) is enabled[/+]on May 12, 2022
Honestly, whether or not the changes in PowerShell/15552 are made, having a parameter set which gives us the ability to specify the -InstallPath instead of a -Scope when calling Install-PSResource would allow users who really want or need to do this to just change their $Env:PSModulePath and set a $PSDefaultParameterValues to make it happen -- without needing to learn to use Save-PSResource instead.
On company developer laptops, OneDrive routinely causes "Access to the cloud file is denied" errors when trying to upgrade modules there, and starts needlessly mirroring the files back to the cloud, slowing down install even more. Not to mention that every time I remove an old version of Az or Microsoft.Graph it causes that scary warning about how something has deleted thousands of files from my OneDrive...
Reacted by Olav Rønnestad Birkeland, BradCalvertLPNT and Martin Gill
I was more than happy to solve this in OneDrive "Choose Folders" option, but that doesn't work remotely the way I expected. I just wanted to exclude the Modules folder from syncing entirely but unchecking it in that screen does very different things than that.
Having modules roam between machines (via OneDrive) is desired functionality for me! Please don't turn it off!
I can see that some might want to turn it off, which they can at the moment by setting $env:PSModulesPath.
I can also see that some sort of alternative mechanism might be desired - eg. some sort of placeholder file, etc. although not all modules are available from the gallery, so quite a bit of design required there.
I would strongly recommend caution when breaking existing workflows by disabling/altering the currently enabled-by-default feature.
James May (@fowl2) thanks for reaching out and providing insight into your use case with this default behavior. This is being discussed and worked on from the PowerShell project side, on this issue linked here: PowerShell/PowerShell#15552
If you can share this comment there, that would be great thanks.
3. Set user context environmental variable PSModulePath to desired directory
Important for PowerShell to automagically look for modules in desired directory.
Example code
# Assets$PSModulePathWanted= [string] '%LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft\PowerShell\Modules'$PSModulePathWantedResolved= [string] (cmd /c ('echo {0}'-f$PSModulePathWanted))
$RegistryPath= [string] 'Registry::HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Environment'# Create path if it does not existif (-not [System.IO.Directory]::Exists($PSModulePathWantedResolved)) {
$null= [System.IO.Directory]::CreateDirectory($PSModulePathWantedResolved)
}
# Get current value without resolving the path / expanding the environmental variable$PSModulePathCurrent= [string](
(Get-Item-Path $RegistryPath).GetValue(
'PSModulePath','','DoNotExpandEnvironmentNames'
)
)
# Make current PSModulePath to a string array for easier operations$PSModulePathNewAsArray= [string[]](
$PSModulePathCurrent.Split(
[System.IO.Path]::PathSeparator
).Where{
-not [string]::IsNullOrEmpty($_)
}
)
# Remove "MyDocuments" if present, as it will resolve to OneDrive if Known Folder Move is enabled$PSModulePathNewAsArray= [string[]](
$PSModulePathNewAsArray.Where{
$_-notlike ('{0}\*'-f [System.Environment]::GetFolderPath('MyDocuments'))
}
)
# Add $PSModulePathWanted if not already presentif ($PSModulePathNewAsArray-notcontains$PSModulePathWanted) {
$PSModulePathNewAsArray= [string[]](
[string[]]($PSModulePathWanted) + [string[]]($PSModulePathNewAsArray) |Where-Object-FilterScript {
-not [string]::IsNullOrEmpty($_)
}
)
}
# Convert $PSModulePathNewAsArray to string for easier comparison to existing value$PSModulePathNew= [string]($PSModulePathNewAsArray-join [System.IO.Path]::PathSeparator)
# Set new value if it changedif ($PSModulePathNew-ne$PSModulePathCurrent) {
$null=Set-ItemProperty-Path $RegistryPath-Name 'PSModulePath'-Value $PSModulePathNew-Force -Type ([Microsoft.Win32.RegistryValueKind]::ExpandString)
}
# Install a module## Assets$DesiredDirectory= [string] '{0}\Microsoft\PowerShell\Modules'-f$env:LOCALAPPDATA$ModuleToInstall= [string] 'Az.Accounts'## Create directory if it does not already existif (-not [System.IO.Directory]::Exists($DesiredDirectory)) {
$null= [System.IO.Directory]::CreateDirectory($DesiredDirectory)
}
## Install module$null=PackageManagement\Save-Package-Type 'Module'-Source 'PSGallery'-Name $ModuleToInstall-Path $DesiredDirectory
Edit 1
I later found out that PackageManagement and PowerShellGet does not actually use $env:PSModulePath when searching for installed modules, while Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Get-Module and Import-Module does. Opened an issue on this here:
The problem with Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Get-Module though, for me at least, is that it does not return enough attributes on the module, like "Author".
"Author" is usefull when looking for child modules, say for Az, and you want to filter out modules made by others than Microsoft Corporation.
Workaround for finding installed modules and versions to custom folder location.
I have not researched the behavior of PowerShellGet v3, but in v2, when the Update-Module command calls the Install-Module command internally, it uses the value of the InstalledLocation from the PSGetModuleInfo.xml file located within the directory where the module is installed to determine the value of the Scope parameter. This file contains the full path of the module directory. However, if the document directory is synchronized with OneDrive and the same Microsoft account is used on multiple machines, or if the PC is re-setup and the username changes, it is possible that the value of InstalledLocation and the actual path where the module exists may differ.
No progress that I'm aware of. I think I read something about the PowerShell working group having this up to discussion again recently. Don't remember where I read that. Maybe in the PowerShell repo. Edit: Maybe the PowerShell Community Call for May 2025 discusses this in agenda point "MyDocuments issue Justin Chung": PowerShell/PowerShell#25058. Recording is not out yet: https://www.youtube.com/@powershellanddscteamchanne5739/videos.
I also opened a PR with a suggestion for an optional override. The basic functionality works, but the repo owners haven't interacted with me on it yet.
Activity
[-]User context, don't install to %OneDriveCommercial% if OneDrive for Business Known Folder Move (KFM) is enabled[/-][+]User context, don't install to ```%OneDriveCommercial%``` if OneDrive for Business Known Folder Move (KFM) is enabled[/+]SydneyhSmith commentedon Apr 21, 2022
Thanks Olav Rønnestad Birkeland (@o-l-a-v) for opening this issue, we are investigating this-- to confirm have you hit this issue with our v3 previews?
o-l-a-v commentedon Apr 21, 2022
Don't remember if I've tried with v3 yet.
Should be easy enough for you to reproduce? :)
o-l-a-v commentedon Apr 22, 2022
Tested with beta 3.0.12, it installs to
%OneDriveCommercial%\Documentsfrom both Windows PowerShell and PowerShell 7.2.2.\WindowsPowerShellwith Windows PowerShell,\PowerShellwith v7.2.2.o-l-a-v commentedon Apr 30, 2022
Related issues from PowerShell/PowerShell:
SydneyhSmith commentedon May 12, 2022
Thanks Olav Rønnestad Birkeland (@o-l-a-v) we are planning to do a deeper dive into these (and other path) issues after our next release
[-]User context, don't install to ```%OneDriveCommercial%``` if OneDrive for Business Known Folder Move (KFM) is enabled[/-][+]User context, don't install to `%OneDriveCommercial%` if OneDrive for Business Known Folder Move (KFM) is enabled[/+]Jaykul commentedon Jun 13, 2022
Honestly, whether or not the changes in PowerShell/15552 are made, having a parameter set which gives us the ability to specify the
-InstallPathinstead of a-Scopewhen callingInstall-PSResourcewould allow users who really want or need to do this to just change their$Env:PSModulePathand set a$PSDefaultParameterValuesto make it happen -- without needing to learn to useSave-PSResourceinstead.On company developer laptops, OneDrive routinely causes "Access to the cloud file is denied" errors when trying to upgrade modules there, and starts needlessly mirroring the files back to the cloud, slowing down install even more. Not to mention that every time I remove an old version of Az or Microsoft.Graph it causes that scary warning about how something has deleted thousands of files from my OneDrive...
BradCalvertLPNT commentedon Jun 17, 2022
I was more than happy to solve this in OneDrive "Choose Folders" option, but that doesn't work remotely the way I expected. I just wanted to exclude the Modules folder from syncing entirely but unchecking it in that screen does very different things than that.
fowl2 commentedon Nov 16, 2022
Having modules roam between machines (via OneDrive) is desired functionality for me! Please don't turn it off!
I can see that some might want to turn it off, which they can at the moment by setting
$env:PSModulesPath.I can also see that some sort of alternative mechanism might be desired - eg. some sort of placeholder file, etc. although not all modules are available from the gallery, so quite a bit of design required there.
I would strongly recommend caution when breaking existing workflows by disabling/altering the currently enabled-by-default feature.
anamnavi commentedon Nov 21, 2022
James May (@fowl2) thanks for reaching out and providing insight into your use case with this default behavior. This is being discussed and worked on from the PowerShell project side, on this issue linked here: PowerShell/PowerShell#15552
If you can share this comment there, that would be great thanks.
o-l-a-v commentedon Jan 12, 2023
After some more tinkering I've found a solution that works for me.
1. Decide on desired directory
I settled on
%LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft\PowerShell\Modules.2. Create desired directory
The desired directory must be created prior to step 4.
Example code
3. Set user context environmental variable
PSModulePathto desired directoryImportant for PowerShell to automagically look for modules in desired directory.
Example code
4. Use
Save-Packagefor installing modulesUse
PackageManagementcmdletSave-Package, which let's you specify path.Save-Module.Save-Package.Example code using PackageManagement
Edit 1
I later found out that
PackageManagementandPowerShellGetdoes not actually use$env:PSModulePathwhen searching for installed modules, whileMicrosoft.PowerShell.Core\Get-ModuleandImport-Moduledoes. Opened an issue on this here:https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShellGet/issues/889moved toGet-PSResourcedoes not search in user context environment variablePSModulePath#889The problem with
Microsoft.PowerShell.Core\Get-Modulethough, for me at least, is that it does not return enough attributes on the module, like "Author".Az, and you want to filter out modules made by others thanMicrosoft Corporation.Workaround for finding installed modules and versions to custom folder location.
Edit 2
Got it faster by using .NET classes
Click to expand
Edit 3
Got it even faster by using
<string>.Contains()vs-like, and.Where({<filter>},'First').Click to expand
aetos382 commentedon May 19, 2023
I have not researched the behavior of PowerShellGet v3, but in v2, when the
Update-Modulecommand calls theInstall-Modulecommand internally, it uses the value of theInstalledLocationfrom thePSGetModuleInfo.xmlfile located within the directory where the module is installed to determine the value of theScopeparameter. This file contains the full path of the module directory. However, if the document directory is synchronized with OneDrive and the same Microsoft account is used on multiple machines, or if the PC is re-setup and the username changes, it is possible that the value ofInstalledLocationand the actual path where the module exists may differ.danielniccoli commentedon May 19, 2025
Olav Rønnestad Birkeland (@o-l-a-v) Can you provide a new link to the issue you mentioned in your first edit? It leads to a 404.
Is there any progress on this?
o-l-a-v commentedon May 19, 2025
Daniel Niccoli (@danielniccoli): I think it must be this one: #889.
No progress that I'm aware of. I think I read something about the PowerShell working group having this up to discussion again recently. Don't remember where I read that. Maybe in the PowerShell repo. Edit: Maybe the PowerShell Community Call for May 2025 discusses this in agenda point "MyDocuments issue Justin Chung": PowerShell/PowerShell#25058. Recording is not out yet: https://www.youtube.com/@powershellanddscteamchanne5739/videos.
I also opened a PR with a suggestion for an optional override. The basic functionality works, but the repo owners haven't interacted with me on it yet.
Wall of links
Issues:
%OneDriveCommercial%if OneDrive for Business Known Folder Move (KFM) is enabled #627Get-PSResourcedoes not search in user context environment variablePSModulePath#889$PROFILE.CurrentUser*and friends out of documents PowerShell#25097PRs:
Workarounds:
Microsoft.PowerShell.PSResourceGet\Save-PSResource -Path+ add new path to$env:PSModulePathin user context.o-l-a-v commentedon May 20, 2025
Daniel Niccoli (@danielniccoli)
Current status is a PR for a RFC, and mentioned in the yearly PowerShell blog post about future investments.